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OpenAI CEO and co-founder Sam Altman opened up about Elon Musk’s feud with him and his view of how regulations relate to artificial intelligence (AI) development must be framed.
Altman appeared in an episode of The Free Press’ “Honestly with Bari Weiss” podcast. that was published Thursday, and Weiss asked why Musk has publicly criticized him over AI security concerns and sued to prevent OpenAI from creating a limited, for-profit corporate structure after initially being founded as an organization not for profit
Musk co-founded OpenAI, but severed ties with the company in 2018 after he was unable to convince its other leaders to either put him in charge of a for-profit OpenAI entity or merge the company with Tesla . Weiss noted that Musk has compared Altman to the character “Little Finger” who was an antagonist in the series Game of Thrones, and that the founder of xAI said that he does not trust Altman to run a company that controls the most powerful AI in the world. world
“I think it’s because he wants the most powerful AI in the world to be controlled by him,” Altman said. “And again, I’ve seen it Elon attacks for many other people, many friends of mine: everyone has their time period in their sights. But this all seems like standard behavior from him.”
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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said he believes Musk’s demand is because he wants to control the world’s most powerful AI. (Photo by FABRICE COFFRINI/AFP via Getty Images/Getty Images)
“I’m upset about it, for sure. I was talking to someone recently who I felt close to and they said, ‘Elon has no friends.’ Elon doesn’t make friends, Elon doesn’t. friends.’ And it was a sad moment for me, because I do think of him as a friend.” Altman said.
“I can look at it a little dispassionately, like I remember what it was like when he said OpenAI has a 0% chance of success and you guys are idiots and I’m getting funding and I’m going to do my thing.” he continued
“I remember what it was like when there were times since then where he felt like he wanted to reconcile and find a way to work together. And then I remember times when he was, you know, doing his thing on Twitter . If it was just for me, I think it would be a lot more painful,” Altman said. “But you know, I think you see who he is on Twitter, so I can like keep it a little impersonal and say, this is about Elon, not about me. It’s still shit, I’ve had a lot of time to get it. used to it I guess.”
Elon Musk and Sam Altman were among the co-founders of OpenAI, though Musk later cut ties with the AI startup. (Photo by Michael Kovac/Getty Images for Vanity Fair/Getty Images)
Weiss noted that OpenAI’s recent blog post and court filing dismissing Musk’s lawsuit against the company and asked Altman if he believes Musk is suing the company for competitive purposes to benefit his company, xAI, rather than genuine concerns about AI safety or the Creators of ChatGPT corporate structure.
Altman replied that he would have to ask Musk. He went on to explain that he believes over-regulation of AI could have “huge negative consequences,” but noted that he, Musk and other big AI companies have supported regulation.
“Some regulation is clearly a good thing. Now, I can imagine versions of it Regulation of AI that are really problematic and would hurt smaller efforts, and I think that would be a real mistake,” Altman explained. “But for some of the more powerful system security guardrails, this should only affect people at the border, this should only affect. OpenAI and a small handful of others. I don’t think we’re at the level yet where these systems have huge security implications, but I don’t think we’re that far either, so that’s kind of the art here.”
Elon Musk supported President-elect Trump’s campaign and was tasked with co-leading the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). (Photo by Brandon Bell/Getty Images/Getty Images)
Weiss asked Altman about arguments made by some AI startups that OpenAI and other larger AI companies are seeking to create regulatory barriers for smaller competitors who could become rivals. He responded that the only regulations he is calling for are “new and unproven” activities that are at the frontier of AI development.
Weiss went on to note the comments made by Marc Andreessen on his podcast and his perception that the Biden administration was trying to control AI and regulate it so there were only a few big companies that would work with the government and be protected from competition.
“I don’t think that’s true, I don’t know what he’s referring to. I’ll also say very, very clearly, I think regulation that reduces competition for AI is very bad,” Altman said. Weiss asked if OpenAI and other AI companies were meeting with the Biden administration to discuss such a regulatory deal.
“I don’t even think the Biden administration is competent to … I mean, we were in a room with them, with other companies and the administration, but I was never like, ‘Here’s our conspiracy theory , let’s make it so that only a few companies can build AI and then you have to do what we say.” Never anything like that,” Altman said.
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The OpenAI co-founder went on to say that he thought The Secretary of Commerce, Gina Raimondo he was more in tune with the emergence of AI and the areas that need to be prioritized than the Biden administration in general.
“I think Gina Raimondo was and is fantastic. Every conversation I had with her, I thought she understood. Overall, I would say the administration was not that effective,” he said.
“The things that I think should have been the priorities of the administration and I hope will be the priorities of the next administration are building massive AI infrastructure in the US, having a supply chain in the US, things like that” , Altman explained.
